Izmar: level160-180's cannot do celestial bearbearbarian dung!! , why do u guys sound surprised ?

@Mishna that's also true. I can get 40m exp off of a good challenge with a Fuji soul, which can take ~80min, vs 10m exp off of a 10min Masto fight. That's 2x the xp, although I do get quite a few more kamas and a LOT more fun out of the fuji soul. However, I feel like if I was getting 80m exp off of a fuji soul my road to 200 would be far shorter and I'm not sure how I feel about that- would be like I was cheating or something lol.

The number one reason why people prefer the simpler, easier dungeons to the hard frigost dungeons is that the experience rewards don't ramp up. Because of the annoying invulnerability techniques, etc it often takes an obscene amount of time to beat the boss.

The solution is simple, boost the exp to obscenely high levels just like the difficulty and time required. Right now in Frigost each successive dungeon seems to give you less and less return on investment. If you want to boost the percentages and get people working harder to go farther in the game, this curve should go the other way.

Each successive dungeon should give more exp and more valuable items, rather than weaker and weaker experience because the bosses take 1-2 hours to beat.

@Alyss-Sin I believe you are talking about the relatively few of us with 8 180+ characters who spam CB nonstop without a need for outside contact. Personally, I don't like running a dungeon by myself unless its simply to see if I can. I belong to 3 guilds in Rushu, and in 2 of them I have helped several people to get through all of F1, and one or two to get past Tengu [my favorite frig dungeon is Fuji]. The 3rd guild needs no assistance, at 190 the account I'm a member with is a rather low level character there hehe.

@Benja The problem with your pet idea (in that it does little to help others out) is that multiclienters with enough accounts will still just run the dungeons without inviting anyone. I have a friend who raises 6-8 Stings at a time, and he lets others join in on his runs because he is a nice guy but he doesn't need to. However, I would be all for such a pet. <3 souleaters.

@xxsem I don't really like your first and second ideas personally, but your third one is spot on. A lot of people who haven't done the dungeons see no reason to do them. If they got something cool...perhaps a shield that gave you a status representing the highest level of completion you have earned or something...we might see a few more people trying to do the dungeons. Or maybe they could give the whole team an item whenever a member completed a dungeon for the first time. [HEY! perhaps that's how you get the soul eater pets Benja wanted, with relative strengths and stats to the dungeon beaten] In this fashion, people would be constantly looking to include new members into their groups.

Other ideas...hmm... well I believe what Alyss was trying to get at is that those of us with multiple accounts have already completed the dungeons and therefore can no longer personally increase %. So perhaps there could be a kama reward system tiered based on how many different IP addresses are represented in your group. I don't think this would be very effective, as giving too many kamas in reward could quickly just inflate markets but its an idea that perhaps someone else can expand on. That is all the thinking my poor little brain can handle tonight, but if I think of any more rest assured that I will spam this comments section with them.

P.S. I did a bit of math and if we did the pet thing with the distribution system, a player with 8 accounts could get a total of 36 pets through their own players (1 player in a group, then that1 +1, then those2 +1 ect up to 8... 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8=36). However, this requires a lot of outside assistance and tons of patience. Someone who just rushed in with their 8 would only be able to get 8 pets out of it...the more I think about that the more I really want it to become reality.

Ben,

I like your ideas. Maybe they can take them all into account and make changes to help the issue. Did some more brainstorming to help.

I multi-client and also too take solo players, friends & guildie through dungeons. Being the guild leader, i've learned that most people are aways looking for kamas to buy a better set. But don't want to take the time to acquire it. For the most part, everyone at frig is still asking to be leech to high lvls with wis sets, but no battle set at all. I don't believe your population of real active players are at high enough lvls. I believe most are in the ball park of 50 to 150ish lvl, not even close enough lvl to even take on frig dungeons. Ok, here's my idea.

1) Why not combine certain servers to increase the population of active players available and able to accomplish the dungeon.

2) Maybe decrease the monsters with the boss strength as some hit the same or even harder than the boss in dungeon

3) Maybe decrease the monster with the boss HP.

some more idea's.

FRIG STATISTICS

tbh i would like to know if all the active 180-200s were count or just all.
Secondly, i would love to hear the stats on 199-200s finishing the last dungeons are end game content and end games dofus is 199-200 not 180-200

whens the cat class coming back? its killing me not knowing when it comes back.

That's a great goal, I'd love to see you pull it off. I realize I generalized all MA's and I shouldn't have there are a few out there are do take the time to help a SA in need.

so its only for remington server tho not Nox server ..... on wakfu