Well, ive already scrolled 101 wis/chance/and a bit of str and agi and int, The big problem is i dont know what equips would suit my cra, im a level 103 cra
greekg#3833
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August 08, 2011, 04:42:08
formulamonster|2011-06-01 18:20:29
embrace-life|2011-06-01 18:09:17
Are wisdom cra's still valid after the nerf?
Yes, they can steal even more MP.
Sadly this isnt the case. They steal less because the mp steal system is similar to ap steal system where leaving a target with little to no MP becomes VERY difficult. On avrage your lashing will steal 1-3mp at lvl 6 and 1-2 mp at lvl 5. I would advise useing para arrow before you use lashing because para mp steals and it makes the mp steal easier when there mp is at a higher % of there total mp.
Although still vaild
Int iops will defeat most chance cras btw. the typical 11ap iop can easily win unless u ap steal 3 ap witch is hard because if they have wis scrolled you will have to waste a good chunck of ap to make them lose 3 to block Jump +ss +ss. My iop used to kill them quite easily even at 7X and i cant imagine how easy at 13X a good plan agstint them is Focusing mainly on mp steal because if they can only jump + move 1 spot they cant do much to you.
And sorry for the doubble post the forums are acting funny for me
Rwhelper2#3750
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September 09, 2011, 02:19:07
I'd like to see a update on the item section . Saw these perfect chance cra daggers the other day.
"Aggravation daggers"
embrace-life|2011-06-01 22:02:24
Well, ive already scrolled 101 wis/chance/and a bit of str and agi and int, The big problem is i dont know what equips would suit my cra, im a level 103 cra
Hey there. Im a wisdom cra also, recently hit 129. Gear choices are dreggon belt mastralis croak doro l blak gelano axel and anc set fillers.
However I chose a different path and got sloppy set with dreggon fillers and a mastralis croak. Its all on preference
PvP-oriented wisdom cra. I've just got a full ancestral set at level 114 and am wondering which I should level to 5, Punitive or Absorptive (Atonement is already at level 6).
I already have enough spell points to level either of the spells to 5, and will have enough spell points to level Bat's Eye to 6 at level 117 by farming some more plain cracklers.
I find absorptive useful esp. against eca when they go for All or Nothing and sram when invisible.
As for Punitive, I haven't tried it yet and am not sure of the damage increase thanks to ancestral. Is it significant enough to be more useful in PvP than absorptive?
Also wondering if I should go full ancestral or keep using salt cape (+1 MP, 51 chance) to achieve 6 MP.
PvP-oriented wisdom cra. I've just got a full ancestral set at level 114 and am wondering which I should level to 5, Punitive or Absorptive (Atonement is already at level 6).
I already have enough spell points to level either of the spells to 5, and will have enough spell points to level Bat's Eye to 6 at level 117 by farming some more plain cracklers.
I find absorptive useful esp. against eca when they go for All or Nothing and sram when invisible.
As for Punitive, I haven't tried it yet and am not sure of the damage increase thanks to ancestral. Is it significant enough to be more useful in PvP than absorptive?
Also wondering if I should go full ancestral or keep using salt cape (+1 MP, 51 chance) to achieve 6 MP.
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Found it out by myself. Full ancestral & Punitive level 5 have been working great for me so far.
The wis cra.... ive never thought of it. Well, what does everyone here think about a str cha hybrid cra? Im lvl 129 right now, but i can do 1100 damage in 1 turn after fully charged its hilarious, people don't expect it XD
yungkilla#6239
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March 26, 2012, 08:10:40
Level 115 wis cra here fully scrolled rank 7... only issue i truly have is againt fecas... especially those with +9 range... cant seem to get away and make my laps around them since they have about the same range as me... anyway like the guide/tactics especially the part about people crying for a nerf especially when i beat lvl 160+ sacs lol...
also for to answer some gear questions i use an 11/6 set with 523wis 383cha 325str... ancestral set and sub the cape for a pdc with an mp gelano axel 49 cawwot alm/eme mount... beat a lvl 120 rank 10 masq on the test server this way so its pretty effective
Im making this build recently and Im just wondering how the new update concerning spell buffs treated this class? It looks like the chance set of spells got a nice bonus.
also, how is this build treating other people recently?
I'm amazed to see the 10,000+ view on my guide. I wrote it all in a few hours on a day off from school, because I was sick, and it looks like a lot of people found it useful. I'm afraid to say that I never did reach the full potential of the Wis/Cha Cra, having only reached about level 19X before quitting Dofus in general. I plan to play Heroic in the future, although this build will be hard to build up there. At this point however, I can't really give any further advice on the build.
What I can say, is the fact that when I first made my character (and even when I made my guide), the Wisdom/Chance cra was a build that hardly anyone used. There was no decent Wiki Entry for it, and everyone always was confused when I said I was Wisdom. It really was a nice experience being one of the pioneers of this build, especially because of how useful it turned out to be. I'm glad to hear that Chance got some updates, but this means more people will play this class as a means of being strong without having to be tactically inclined. The major idea of this class was the fact that you could be successful if you used it intelligently.
At the time of my leave from Dofus, there were already a major amount of cras with this same build, a lot of whom were even more skilled in me (either by raw skill, or because of high level alts/friends who allowed them to outlevel/outgrind me. These are the people who I would turn to for help.
Don't be afraid to ask fellow players in the game for advice on this build if you see they're using it well. Usually, they'll be glad to give it.
And with those words of wisdom, I hope to encourage players to keep this build progressing without forgetting about its true roots.
this is actually the build i use. expect my chance didnt bother me that much, so i pumped all my points into wisdom past 200 to level faster untill endgame.
End-game it's so easy to get loads of mp/ap loss res. Below that though (like under 190 or so), it's still pretty strong, as long as you have allies with nice damage who can actually kill the enemies.
Although I still say it's not a proper build, and people that use it ought to go and learn to play a proper class/build.
yungkilla#6239
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March 16, 2014, 17:08:50
well if you put kamas into it its still pretty viable even if they stack mp resi you can ap rape and with lashing you can get a good amount of mp rape... hell ive had 114mp removal and taken from people with 7x resi end game i suggest stopping at 300 wis... rest into whichever i choose vit but im not EG either... but %power set is something that is extremely effective with cras especially if you want to be effective at pvp/kolo for versatility
Although still vaild
Int iops will defeat most chance cras btw. the typical 11ap iop can easily win unless u ap steal 3 ap witch is hard because if they have wis scrolled you will have to waste a good chunck of ap to make them lose 3 to block Jump +ss +ss. My iop used to kill them quite easily even at 7X and i cant imagine how easy at 13X a good plan agstint them is Focusing mainly on mp steal because if they can only jump + move 1 spot they cant do much to you.
And sorry for the doubble post the forums are acting funny for me
"Aggravation daggers"
Hey there. Im a wisdom cra also, recently hit 129. Gear choices are dreggon belt mastralis croak doro l blak gelano axel and anc set fillers.
However I chose a different path and got sloppy set with dreggon fillers and a mastralis croak. Its all on preference
I already have enough spell points to level either of the spells to 5, and will have enough spell points to level Bat's Eye to 6 at level 117 by farming some more plain cracklers.
I find absorptive useful esp. against eca when they go for All or Nothing and sram when invisible.
As for Punitive, I haven't tried it yet and am not sure of the damage increase thanks to ancestral. Is it significant enough to be more useful in PvP than absorptive?
Also wondering if I should go full ancestral or keep using salt cape (+1 MP, 51 chance) to achieve 6 MP.
PvP-oriented wisdom cra. I've just got a full ancestral set at level 114 and am wondering which I should level to 5, Punitive or Absorptive (Atonement is already at level 6).
I already have enough spell points to level either of the spells to 5, and will have enough spell points to level Bat's Eye to 6 at level 117 by farming some more plain cracklers.
I find absorptive useful esp. against eca when they go for All or Nothing and sram when invisible.
As for Punitive, I haven't tried it yet and am not sure of the damage increase thanks to ancestral. Is it significant enough to be more useful in PvP than absorptive?
Also wondering if I should go full ancestral or keep using salt cape (+1 MP, 51 chance) to achieve 6 MP.
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Found it out by myself. Full ancestral & Punitive level 5 have been working great for me so far.
also for to answer some gear questions i use an 11/6 set with 523wis 383cha 325str... ancestral set and sub the cape for a pdc with an mp gelano axel 49 cawwot alm/eme mount... beat a lvl 120 rank 10 masq on the test server this way so its pretty effective
Im making this build recently and Im just wondering how the new update concerning spell buffs treated this class? It looks like the chance set of spells got a nice bonus.
also, how is this build treating other people recently?
Thanks!
What I can say, is the fact that when I first made my character (and even when I made my guide), the Wisdom/Chance cra was a build that hardly anyone used. There was no decent Wiki Entry for it, and everyone always was confused when I said I was Wisdom. It really was a nice experience being one of the pioneers of this build, especially because of how useful it turned out to be. I'm glad to hear that Chance got some updates, but this means more people will play this class as a means of being strong without having to be tactically inclined. The major idea of this class was the fact that you could be successful if you used it intelligently.
At the time of my leave from Dofus, there were already a major amount of cras with this same build, a lot of whom were even more skilled in me (either by raw skill, or because of high level alts/friends who allowed them to outlevel/outgrind me. These are the people who I would turn to for help.
Don't be afraid to ask fellow players in the game for advice on this build if you see they're using it well. Usually, they'll be glad to give it.
And with those words of wisdom, I hope to encourage players to keep this build progressing without forgetting about its true roots.
Farewell,
~Faruz
Although I still say it's not a proper build, and people that use it ought to go and learn to play a proper class/build.