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Str fecas and their spell backlash

By superbestofwar - FORMER SUBSCRIBER - January 06, 2016, 18:33:54

In my use of the str feca I've concluded its super fun to play, but sadly the only negative for me is the strange range of backlash, anyone else think that it should be able to hit in front of the player in exchange for some dmg when hitting from the front?
while I'm advocating for fecas, wouldn't it be great if they had at least one spell that allows for close ranged dmg for cha, in ecaflips, all elements have the capacity of close ranged, even enis, which are used as a support class, have the capacity of close ranged dmg for all their elements.

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While I understand you, it is an intended weakness. So fecas won't lock targets on top of glyphs while dealing heavy damage, stealing the enemy damage for themselves, and basically being a major pain to deal with. You can see that the only spells that have 1 range are the weaker ones, and that is intended.

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While I understand you, it is an intended weakness. So fecas won't lock targets on top of glyphs while dealing heavy damage, stealing the enemy damage for themselves, and basically being a major pain to deal with. You can see that the only spells that have 1 range are the weaker ones, and that is intended.
Yeah but look at Feline Spirit.
1. Extremely high damage for just 3 AP
2. Not diagonal-only anymore
3. Does not hurt yourself anymore

So why does Backlash get this bad treatment?

Cha Fecas have it even worse. If you're locked you can't hit at all.
3 minimum range is absolutely ridiculous. This isn't a Cra.
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I agree it is intentional. Going Cha? Be sure to keep your distance, Release and Tele, hit-and-run style. Going Str? Keep in mind you need to maneuver one way or another, with decent amount of Agi and Dodges or Repulsive or whatever. The only straightforward Feca is Int Feca, all other elements need complimentary tricks.

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Repulsive glyph is helpful, try make it hit as much as possible. In case you are a feca who is weak in cc.

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Whilst it would be nice to have the Cha spells have no minimum range, like someone mentioned previously, its a intentional weakness. This is where I think Ankama have done a superb job in the class design. Each element is unique, with its strengths, weaknesses and complimentary additional effects. I hate to see it on some of the new classes where you have the same spell in four different elements. It seems like they want to try and balance out the builds, but leaves for a receptive class in my opinion.

With a feca you know were your strengths and weaknesses lie and have to use strategies around it. As Cha you know you risk having to stay at range, or be multi element to have another element cover close range.

I'd love to say, can't we increase Agi range spells, make Backlash linear and have no minimum range on Cha spells. Whilst this will make the class stronger, it will make it less fun and less challenging to play.

I see your point in comparing to other spells, but you have to take the whole concept of a Feca and Eca into account and all there other spells. I understand your frustration, and I hate to say the cliche 'learn how to play around it, or learn to play better', but frankly thats what it comes down too. I don't see Feca's getting changed for quite some time. I think they are very a well balanced and fun class to play.

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Eca and Feca are fundamentally different classes, I don't think it would be fair to compare the range/damage of there spells. Like someone already mentioned it's an intentional weakness and a fair trade off considering the damage it already deals, the strength steal, and on top of all that you have your shields and glyphs.

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7Benj|2016-01-07 06:12:09
While I understand you, it is an intended weakness. So fecas won't lock targets on top of glyphs while dealing heavy damage, stealing the enemy damage for themselves, and basically being a major pain to deal with. You can see that the only spells that have 1 range are the weaker ones, and that is intended.
Yeah but look at Feline Spirit.
1. Extremely high damage for just 3 AP
2. Not diagonal-only anymore
3. Does not hurt yourself anymore

So why does Backlash get this bad treatment?

Cha Fecas have it even worse. If you're locked you can't hit at all.
3 minimum range is absolutely ridiculous. This isn't a Cra.
Yeah, but look at the classes as a whole.

1:Ecaflips have way less defenses than fecas, and being on close range for fecas is easier and more advantageous than it is for ecas, since they can mitigate the damage with shields and glyphs.
2: if fecas had powerful 1 range spells, they would get a bunch of lock and lock people on glyph of repulsion+blindness+flaming, which is cheap as all hell (trust me, I know).
3: Ecaflips are damage dealers primarily. OF COURSE they will have better damage than a class that is a support/large scale debuffer.
4: Backlash has a very powerful side effect that lowers enemy damage AND increases it's own, more range, and more casts per turn per target.
5: Fecas have more range overall.
6: Fecas have a spell that turns them immune to close combat damage, and one that turns them immune to long range damage AND give them buffs if hit on close range. Again, fecas would just build tons of lock and be cheap as all hell.
7: fecas can keep their damage buffs pretty much forever. Ecas have cooldown on their main damage buff.

I can keep going, but I think I made my point clear. Fecas don't have good 1 range spells because it would be absurdly cheap if they did, with all the glyphs and such. Ecas typically won't want to lock anyone, and even if they did, there's nothing that they can do with it that would be cheap.

I had this rant ready for months now, but I couldn't post it because forum was acting up.
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