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In 2013, become a great knight!

By #[Izmar] - ADMIN - January 02, 2013, 17:43:15
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kloklystron|2013-01-02 22:02:36
pff stupid ankama try to get money from rare items -,- it now no rare item anymore
no fun more in dofus to collect all rare items great job mabye im quit with al my chars ankama ruined the hole game alot.

hope there going fix alot with next update or im quit for ever because shika server is almost dead


No rare items? No fun collecting rare items?

The game is called Dofus for a reason. You're meant to collect the rare items, the Dofus eggs. And these eggs will never be able to be bought from some emporium. You want to collect rare items? Run dragon pig 200 times and complete eternal harvest!
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LaughinGhost|2013-01-03 15:02:19
kloklystron|2013-01-02 22:02:36
pff stupid ankama try to get money from rare items -,- it now no rare item anymore
no fun more in dofus to collect all rare items great job mabye im quit with al my chars ankama ruined the hole game alot.

hope there going fix alot with next update or im quit for ever because shika server is almost dead


No rare items? No fun collecting rare items?

The game is called Dofus for a reason. You're meant to collect the rare items, the Dofus eggs. And these eggs will never be able to be bought from some emporium. You want to collect rare items? Run dragon pig 200 times and complete eternal harvest!
Why even bother? The way Ankama treats rare items, I wouldn't be surprise if they start selling dofuses for 3000 ogrines. tongue 
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There's nothing inherently wrong here; and besides, it's their game, so they can do what they want with it. No point complaining about the game's development.

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Gunnerwolfang|2013-01-03 15:47:31
LaughinGhost|2013-01-03 15:02:19
kloklystron|2013-01-02 22:02:36
pff stupid ankama try to get money from rare items -,- it now no rare item anymore
no fun more in dofus to collect all rare items great job mabye im quit with al my chars ankama ruined the hole game alot.

hope there going fix alot with next update or im quit for ever because shika server is almost dead


No rare items? No fun collecting rare items?

The game is called Dofus for a reason. You're meant to collect the rare items, the Dofus eggs. And these eggs will never be able to be bought from some emporium. You want to collect rare items? Run dragon pig 200 times and complete eternal harvest!
Why even bother? The way Ankama treats rare items, I wouldn't be surprise if they start selling dofuses for 3000 ogrines. tongue
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Only items specially created for promotional material will ever be sold in the shop. Ankama will never sell items that can be dropped or crafted in game.

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Liquid-Flame|2013-01-04 02:04:06
There's nothing inherently wrong here; and besides, it's their game, so they can do what they want with it. No point complaining about the game's development.
You just waived your right from ever complaining. By your principle, you have no right to complain anymore. Remember that when you post to complain.

Maybe you don't find it wrong for those who acquired rare items the hard way to be suddenly given the middle finger. Just imagine buying a turq or ochre dofus for 20-60 mk and then Ankama suddenly realized that everyone should have easy access to dofuses saying that dofuses was not intended to be rare and sold them for 3000 ogrine each.

Granted, it may never happen, but how would you feel if it did?
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Gunnerwolfang|2013-01-04 02:20:13
Liquid-Flame|2013-01-04 02:04:06
There's nothing inherently wrong here; and besides, it's their game, so they can do what they want with it. No point complaining about the game's development.
You just waived your right from ever complaining. By your principle, you have no right to complain anymore. Remember that when you post to complain.

Maybe you don't find it wrong for those who acquired rare items the hard way to be suddenly given the middle finger. Just imagine buying a turq or ochre dofus for 20-60 mk and then Ankama suddenly realized that everyone should have easy access to dofuses saying that dofuses was not intended to be rare and sold them for 3000 ogrine each.

Granted, it may never happen, but how would you feel if it did?
A bit of a slippery slope, isn't it? So far the emporium has respected its mandate. Unless you mean another E-Shop... in which case, DOFUS would've suffered a tremendous change to switch it to what amounts to a pay-to-win. And then we'd have much more serious questioning to do than simply "is my dofus worthless".

Only items specially created for promotional material will ever be sold in the shop. Ankama will never sell items that can be dropped or crafted in game.


The issue that caused these items to be rare, to start with, is the mixed nature of some of the international servers, where some people were eligible to the promotion, other weren't and then some other simply weren't aware because they didn't speak french. More so, there's the problem of manpower cost versus usefulness. Those items were created to be promotional items, yes. But does that mean that they should never ever be seen ingame, and essentially costed an artist a certain amount of hours for an handful of players? There's the issue of justifying such an investment to an extent.

And that is also the reason why there won't be duplicate items of these to appease the collectors: They're justifying manpower. Not trying to increase the workload for 0 effect on the initial reason they've started the emporium.

Edit: And to clarify: Yes, it's a bit unfair. Such is life. If you make a large investment into something under the impression it's rare, in an evolving world, you're gambling that it will remain rare. Which, as seen above, is an unlikely guess to start with.

Edit: PS: Rambo's staff is another story. It is bound to him (Character name must be his. I guess you could have one on each server but...) and it wasn't for promotional purpose so much as a "quest reward" for being the first L200.
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Muniamx|2013-01-04 02:27:09
Gunnerwolfang|2013-01-04 02:20:13
Liquid-Flame|2013-01-04 02:04:06
There's nothing inherently wrong here; and besides, it's their game, so they can do what they want with it. No point complaining about the game's development.
You just waived your right from ever complaining. By your principle, you have no right to complain anymore. Remember that when you post to complain.

Maybe you don't find it wrong for those who acquired rare items the hard way to be suddenly given the middle finger. Just imagine buying a turq or ochre dofus for 20-60 mk and then Ankama suddenly realized that everyone should have easy access to dofuses saying that dofuses was not intended to be rare and sold them for 3000 ogrine each.

Granted, it may never happen, but how would you feel if it did?
A bit of a slippery slope, isn't it? So far the emporium has respected its mandate. Unless you mean another E-Shop... in which case, DOFUS would've suffered a tremendous change to switch it to what amounts to a pay-to-win. And then we'd have much more serious questioning to do than simply "is my dofus worthless".

Only items specially created for promotional material will ever be sold in the shop. Ankama will never sell items that can be dropped or crafted in game.


The issue that caused these items to be rare, to start with, is the mixed nature of some of the international servers, where some people were eligible to the promotion, other weren't and then some other simply weren't aware because they didn't speak french. More so, there's the problem of manpower cost versus usefulness. Those items were created to be promotional items, yes. But does that mean that they should never ever be seen ingame, and essentially costed an artist a certain amount of hours for an handful of players? There's the issue of justifying such an investment to an extent.

And that is also the reason why there won't be duplicate items of these to appease the collectors: They're justifying manpower. Not trying to increase the workload for 0 effect on the initial reason they've started the emporium.
What is the value of promotional items? Yes they shouldn't be seen commonly in-game or else they are not a promotional item but should have been marketed as cash shop item in the first place.

Yes those artist invested hours into those items but what about those players who invested more than others to acquire them? Are we too give collector the middle finger just because artist cannot make a new set of material for the emporium? How hard is it to create a new name and color for items, they do not even have to draw new images.
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This is so wrong...

well done Ankama you stepped one more step lower...

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Gunnerwolfang|2013-01-04 02:52:10
Muniamx|2013-01-04 02:27:09
Gunnerwolfang|2013-01-04 02:20:13
Liquid-Flame|2013-01-04 02:04:06
There's nothing inherently wrong here; and besides, it's their game, so they can do what they want with it. No point complaining about the game's development.
You just waived your right from ever complaining. By your principle, you have no right to complain anymore. Remember that when you post to complain.

Maybe you don't find it wrong for those who acquired rare items the hard way to be suddenly given the middle finger. Just imagine buying a turq or ochre dofus for 20-60 mk and then Ankama suddenly realized that everyone should have easy access to dofuses saying that dofuses was not intended to be rare and sold them for 3000 ogrine each.

Granted, it may never happen, but how would you feel if it did?
A bit of a slippery slope, isn't it? So far the emporium has respected its mandate. Unless you mean another E-Shop... in which case, DOFUS would've suffered a tremendous change to switch it to what amounts to a pay-to-win. And then we'd have much more serious questioning to do than simply "is my dofus worthless".

Only items specially created for promotional material will ever be sold in the shop. Ankama will never sell items that can be dropped or crafted in game.


The issue that caused these items to be rare, to start with, is the mixed nature of some of the international servers, where some people were eligible to the promotion, other weren't and then some other simply weren't aware because they didn't speak french. More so, there's the problem of manpower cost versus usefulness. Those items were created to be promotional items, yes. But does that mean that they should never ever be seen ingame, and essentially costed an artist a certain amount of hours for an handful of players? There's the issue of justifying such an investment to an extent.

And that is also the reason why there won't be duplicate items of these to appease the collectors: They're justifying manpower. Not trying to increase the workload for 0 effect on the initial reason they've started the emporium.
What is the value of promotional items? Yes they shouldn't be seen commonly in-game or else they are not a promotional item but should have been marketed as cash shop item in the first place.

Yes those artist invested hours into those items but what about those players who invested more than others to acquire them? Are we too give collector the middle finger just because artist cannot make a new set of material for the emporium? How hard is it to create a new name and color for items, they do not even have to draw new images.


The problem is that such a situation occurred in the first place. Ankama unintentionally made promotional items very rare outside of the French community. All of the promotional items we've seen have been convention goodies or French-language mangas. The few items that leaked to other servers became a commodity, when it was not the intention at all of the item makers to make items of this variety. The Emporium was created as a method of making the items available to a larger audience, because they weren't meant to be on such a level of exclusive in the first place.

In other words, the items shouldn't have been rare. This is the solution to making them fairly available to a wide audience willing to put up cash for them like they're intended to be. Instead of buying fancy mangas or convention tickets, we're just paying directly. Promotional items were meant to be valuable in a way, but not as valuable as they became within the other communities.
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I think a point being missed here is also the fact that ordering these items before the E Shop costed a huge amount of real world money. (I spent almost $30 on a Ankama convention ticket just so I could obtain my favorite pet) what that did was allow people with huge Real life pockets to go on the website or French Ebay and buy a bunch of TCG codes and mangas and sell the items off for huge profits in game (I know of a player who made more then 400,000,000 on Rushu just doing the incarnation buying and selling trick) that's wrong. Plain and simple. It's one thing to buy orgines for money, since you're re supporting the economy by allowing members to subscribe. But it's another thing to use your Tardis Pockets to spend 100 Euro on the French Ebay site, to then make a half of billion Kamas all by clicking a few buttons. That's the wonderful thing about the E shop. It prevents people from legitimately(without breaking the TOS) making large sum of kamas, and it gifts the players who aren't as fortune as others the same luxury that the rich players enjoyed for years.

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They just need to get rid of The Great Emporium. It's gonna ruin the economy and it's makes collectables pointless. Like someone else said, give it a few months and they'll probably sell 20 Turqs at 10,000 origines or something.

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myosa123|2013-01-04 18:15:11
They just need to get rid of The Great Emporium. It's gonna ruin the economy and it's makes collectables pointless. Like someone else said, give it a few months and they'll probably sell 20 Turqs at 10,000 origines or something.
After reading Tropicals point, it makes those that are ofended by the new service seem rather... uneducated, BUT, on the flip side; (to give the benafit of the doubt) Mabe such exploights are O.K. if it only benafits a small eletist few... and as they may be the minority; they recieve privilage... then again, this coming from someone that doesn't worry about end-game benafits--such as owning a Turq. Great me with indefferince if you will.
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myosa123|2013-01-04 18:15:11
They just need to get rid of The Great Emporium. It's gonna ruin the economy and it's makes collectables pointless. Like someone else said, give it a few months and they'll probably sell 20 Turqs at 10,000 origines or something.

Only items specially created for promotional material will ever be sold in the shop. Ankama will never sell items that can be dropped or crafted in game.
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Tropical-Ace|2013-01-05 02:17:18
myosa123|2013-01-04 18:15:11
They just need to get rid of The Great Emporium. It's gonna ruin the economy and it's makes collectables pointless. Like someone else said, give it a few months and they'll probably sell 20 Turqs at 10,000 origines or something.

Only items specially created for promotional material will ever be sold in the shop. Ankama will never sell items that can be dropped or crafted in game.
It's Dofus. Do you really think they'll do that? They're always screwing things up. At some point, they'll do something stupid like that.
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myosa123|2013-01-05 02:22:50
Tropical-Ace|2013-01-05 02:17:18
myosa123|2013-01-04 18:15:11
They just need to get rid of The Great Emporium. It's gonna ruin the economy and it's makes collectables pointless. Like someone else said, give it a few months and they'll probably sell 20 Turqs at 10,000 origines or something.

Only items specially created for promotional material will ever be sold in the shop. Ankama will never sell items that can be dropped or crafted in game.
It's Dofus. Do you really think they'll do that? They're always screwing things up. At some point, they'll do something stupid like that.
Can you give an example of them doing something that would lead one to believe they would become a "Play 2 Win" game?
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10,000 Ogrines would be a bit too cheap. At least 50,000 to 100,000 for a 20 turq. wink 

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Tropical-Ace|2013-01-05 05:03:39
Can you give an example of them doing something that would lead one to believe they would become a "Play 2 Win" game?
By introducing server transfer, epic high level players with money can pay to transfer to newer server and dominate that server, with better gears, professions and even earn more money by selling their gears. That is a pay to win scenario.
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Gunnerwolfang|2013-01-05 07:50:39
Tropical-Ace|2013-01-05 05:03:39
Can you give an example of them doing something that would lead one to believe they would become a "Play 2 Win" game?
By introducing server transfer, epic high level players with money can pay to transfer to newer server and dominate that server, with better gears, professions and even earn more money by selling their gears. That is a pay to win scenario.
That's a really poor example that's citing a system that players abused (like saying selling The e shop items being sold in the player market is play 2 win.) I gave you the direct quote from Sebsokk, you cited examples outside of it. It's very clear that Ankama's intention was not to imposs a "play 2 win" aspect to the sever swap system.

You're clearly set in your own way, any opinion that anyone makes wont sway the anger you feel toward your rare items being sold on the e shop, thus losing their value. However, striking panic in people, making them believe there's a chance that their hard work is going to be sold in a E shop is wrong.
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when is this going to happen?

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cool

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