Afladrol#8226
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May 25, 2017, 14:37:14
I can make a list that long for every class in the game, that's exactly my point. Every class has it's strenght and must be countered properly. Complaining is not the answer.
If anything, the things the ruined this game the most, are class rework. Proof is that lots of people likes the 1.29 more than this version, this should tell something to ankama and to people always asking to nerf classes they don't use.
My Osa can kill any temple dopple completely naked, something that I have not seen any other of my class do, but that single act of impossible feat does not make my osa OP. OPness is not just about a few isolated incident or situational accomplishment, you have to look at the big picture.
I'm sorry ill stray from the main topic a bit. I am wondering how you can consider no class in this game to be truly op. First of all you say that you only pvm and you do not pvp so how can you say that you have fully experienced the pros and cons of a class to be able to judge that. Just because you leveled a few classes to 200 does not mean you know to what extent a class can go. To say that no class in this game is truly op is wrong. You mentioned osa, and osa is the best example at the moment of how unbalanced a class can be. No other class can say that they have the feats of it. They are the top pvp class both in 1v1 and group pvp,they have no trouble beating any of the other classes too, they can fight solo vs multiple classes, they can solo most(if not all) of the endgame dungeons. It takes little effort to play it but having it is almost always an autowin in pretty much any scenario. So I'd say 1v1, group pvp and pvm are a big enough picture to look at.
And even if that to you is not something that would make a class "op" then what would? Since they have pretty much dominated everything with 0 effort even with the nerfs to the class.
And sorry but "Git gud" is not a valid argument either.
how can you say that you have fully experienced the pros and cons of a class to be able to judge that. Just because you leveled a few classes to 200 does not mean you know to what extent a class can go.
I don't claim to know the full extent of what each class can do, but based on my own PvM experience, I can claim that each of the 16 high level classes that I play are not OP (and even the ecaflip and xelors which I don't play). Now if you want to talk about PvM then talk to other PvM players not me. I am talking about PvM.
And git gud is a viable advise because I've seen a lot of post from good players who don't have problem dealing with any class. So git gud.
how can you say that you have fully experienced the pros and cons of a class to be able to judge that. Just because you leveled a few classes to 200 does not mean you know to what extent a class can go.
I don't claim to know the full extent of what each class can do, but based on my own PvM experience, I can claim that each of the 16 high level classes that I play are not OP (and even the ecaflip and xelors which I don't play). Now if you want to talk about PvM then talk to other PvM players not me. I am talking about PvM.
And git gud is a viable advise because I've seen a lot of post from good players who don't have problem dealing with any class. So git gud.
git gud counts more for classes that atleast need to require skill, ( rogue, elio). so for all the people who defending their ougi class, dont want their broken class to be nerfed
Not really. All classes needs skills, even the most straight-forward classes have to change their tactics depending on the situation. This is a tactics game, if you do not git gud and learn to adapt against different opponents, and if you do not learn other class strength and weakness, then you are bound to lose. Another thing to remember is that you can't beat all class/build. there will always be a class/build that you will find hard to beat due to the RPS nature of the classes. Even if I don't PvP, I've seen enough PvP rants in the forum about how OP other class is, and most of the time, they just got OutPlayed by their opponents (like one rant about how OP a multi-chance eni team are at AP stealing, when they could have countered it with AP res gears), another example where git gud is the way to go.
How is "looking at someone ranting about a class" a viable response? Perhaps if you actually did some pvp and see how some classes are actually unbalanced for yourself instead of spending your time on the forum you would see what most people mean. And you cant compare someone complaining about 1 fight with the enis to people complaining about a class dominating literally every aspect of the game. If you do not believe me I can link you osas soloing f3 whale merk and other dungeons. Now that by itself does not mean it is unbalanced but the fact is that osas dominate not only pvm but no other class can beat them in 1v1 too unless the osa does not know how to play its class at all. 99% of teams use osas too for easy wins. Also seems that you were wrong about ougis too since I heard they got nerfed on beta.
It is a viable response because it shows that nerf rants are simply that, a rant.
Like I said before, all class got nerf all the time so getting nerf is not an indication that classes are OP. If all classes are nerfed, then all class are OP and when all class are OP then no class are OP.
If anything, the things the ruined this game the most, are class rework. Proof is that lots of people likes the 1.29 more than this version, this should tell something to ankama and to people always asking to nerf classes they don't use.
And even if that to you is not something that would make a class "op" then what would? Since they have pretty much dominated everything with 0 effort even with the nerfs to the class.
And sorry but "Git gud" is not a valid argument either.
And git gud is a viable advise because I've seen a lot of post from good players who don't have problem dealing with any class. So git gud.
Like I said before, all class got nerf all the time so getting nerf is not an indication that classes are OP. If all classes are nerfed, then all class are OP and when all class are OP then no class are OP.