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Banned for no reason at all?

By SSGSSGOKUBLUE#3505 - FORMER SUBSCRIBER - January 27, 2023, 22:36:41
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Hello,

Today I was thinking of playing Dofus on the pc version again. I had been playing the touch version for some months but I prefer to multi account so I got back to pc. However, I almost did everything already (quests, hunting the dofus, drops and stuff) so I decided to just make new accounts. I made 8 brand new e-mails to create 8 brand new accounts. 

I was setting up a team and thought about a good synergy team. After I made my decision I started to make the classes with colours, names and stuff. After doing the tutorial 8 times I thought it was a good idea to go to the Astrub portal to meet all my characters at the same place and to get the materials from my old account to my new account since that could be a good kama boost on my new accounts so I could get some gear. However, when the 8th character was in the portal I wanted to decide in which order I should play to get the most out of the team. When I litterly moved one by one to the corner I instantly got banned without any valid reason. 1 of my accounts that is banned at the moment had gear of my main account in the inventory.  I am on the Tal Kasha server, so multi accounting is allowed.

This all just doesn't make sense at all. I already sent a ticket to Ankama but its gonna take probably after Tuesday until they reply. I'm really really curious why this happened to me without even a warning or a pm from a MOD. I thought of grinding this weekend since I am finally free for a weekend and then BOOM. 

Just why, Ankama? 
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First Ankama intervention
Hello!

As was already mentionned by a helpful player (thank you Roumo!), only support can investigate and handle ban or sanction-related requests. I can only ask you to remain patient in the meantime, while support gets to your request!

Thank you for your patience and understanding.
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Hi. It'd be best to wait until you hear from support as they're the ones who deal with investigating bans and unbanning, etc. Based on my tickets they've been averaging 2-3 business days to respond lately (though it may take a little longer to investigate your account), so you shouldn't have to be too patient. happy

At a guess if you weren't doing anything wrong and it was a permanent ban I would say the system automatically banned you (maybe it somehow detected botting/use of macros, kama laundering due to your trading or something: I can only speculate but I'm sure support can explain). Moderators can only issue temporary bans - anything more needs to be investigated by support who are the ones who issue more heavy sanctions (generally after a temporary ban has been issued). Issuing manual sanctions also takes time as each account needs to be investigated, so immediately having a lot of accounts banned in succession is another sign it likely wasn't done by a moderator.

There's also the possibility that your accounts weren't actually banned but your IP was blocked for some reason. Were you using a VPN? Are you able to connect to your main account alright, or able to try connect from a different IP at a safe location?
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Roumo#4013|2023-01-28 05:24:31
Hi. It'd be best to wait until you hear from support as they're the ones who deal with investigating bans and unbanning, etc. Based on my tickets they've been averaging 2-3 business days to respond lately (though it may take a little longer to investigate your account), so you shouldn't have to be too patient. happy

At a guess if you weren't doing anything wrong and it was a permanent ban I would say the system automatically banned you (maybe it somehow detected botting/use of macros, kama laundering due to your trading or something: I can only speculate but I'm sure support can explain). Moderators can only issue temporary bans - anything more needs to be investigated by support who are the ones who issue more heavy sanctions (generally after a temporary ban has been issued). Issuing manual sanctions also takes time as each account needs to be investigated, so immediately having a lot of accounts banned in succession is another sign it likely wasn't done by a moderator.

There's also the possibility that your accounts weren't actually banned but your IP was blocked for some reason. Were you using a VPN? Are you able to connect to your main account alright, or able to try connect from a different IP at a safe location?

Hi,

I can log my other accounts without any problem. I think it has to do with some bot detector stuff as you mentioned. kinda weird since my character names had all the name "Noctis" in it. Like Noctis-Shield, Noctis-Portal etc. 

I don't use any macro stuff or a vpn. Why would I use a VPN in the first place? I'm just playing on a regular server where multi accounting is allowed. 

I hope ankama will unban all my accounts so I don't have to appeal each one seperately. 

 
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Hello!

As was already mentionned by a helpful player (thank you Roumo!), only support can investigate and handle ban or sanction-related requests. I can only ask you to remain patient in the meantime, while support gets to your request!

Thank you for your patience and understanding.
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Hi Ankama,

Is it something that banned me automatically? Like a bot scanner or something like that. Because I want to know why I got banned what made it ban me? Is it the names? The movement of my characters standing next to each other? My ticket still hasn't been in progress. I want to subscribe with my money and want to get to the game as soon as possible. TAKE MY MONEY ALREADYYY
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[Ankama]DOFUS|2023-01-30 18:46:48
Hello!

As was already mentionned by a helpful player (thank you Roumo!), only support can investigate and handle ban or sanction-related requests. I can only ask you to remain patient in the meantime, while support gets to your request!

Thank you for your patience and understanding.


 
[Fiora]|2023-01-30 21:21:50

MidnightSparkle#3453|2023-01-30 19:49:01
Gokublue.

Just so you know, they will not say why you got banned. Saying why you got banned could lead to people who make bots to ask support for "why did I get banned" and get answers and then just bypass the ban in the future. They will not answer "because you click like this for x minutes on this map".
 







This isn't of concern. The reasoning is plainly that Ankama Support is the final authority on matters relating to account bans, which is why the Community Managers and Volunteer Moderators defer to Support for all such inquiries. In this hierarchy, Support is at the top, and we cannot bypass them.

Account bans are also private information, like any other account details, so for privacy reasons Support will never discuss these matters on the public forum. The Community Management team is a different team from the Support team. Accordingly, one must send a support ticket to inquire about a ban.



 
I am sorry, but I beg to differ ...
I had a small issue, let's say, with one of accounts, years back; of course, I assume I can not talk about the "issue" nor the "punishment" nor which acc/s was/ were affected; but I also assume I can say that I have been sent, back then, years back, back and forth, between Support > MOD > CM > etc; needless to say, the "issue" is still pending; many years after...
What I am trying to say is that, sadly, not everything has a happy ending always, regardless if one is right or wrong.
Nevertheless, I wish you best of luck, SSGSSGOKUBLUE !!! huh 
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4 days ahead and still no reply. I'm wondering if more people got this kind of issue. Expecting that the support is kinda busy..

 
Angelsnow#6707|2023-01-31 13:27:40
Average reply time is around 10 working days, doesnt include from around 4pm fridays til 10am mondays.
The queue system is also on a oldest to newest basis, oldest tickets worked on before newest. but if you add anything to a pre-existing ticket it will knock it down the list as if you have sent in a new one.

get out.. 10 working days? are you for real? why that long if they tell themselves it is around 48-72 hours?
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Average reply time is around 10 working days, doesnt include from around 4pm fridays til 10am mondays.
The queue system is also on a oldest to newest basis, oldest tickets worked on before newest. but if you add anything to a pre-existing ticket it will knock it down the list as if you have sent in a new one.
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another respectable member of the english community got banned these days, last week a spanish friend of mine got banned, lots of good old gamers are dissapearing one by one, Ankama is banning them without any proof, accusing them of botting, no proof at all - if ankama says they use bot´s, they use, it is that simple... reminds me of some cruel dictatorships and witch hunts in the old times.. 

and of course bots are still around - no change there at all

i am really scared to loose all my stuff,  and it is not suprising that many people are quitting or are about to quit, but Ankama is of course going to blame us for quitting and will never admit that they pushed us away with this ridicilous accusations and sanctions
 
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Last mmo I played (runescape) had a lot of players who cheated and did shady things and instead of getting punished, they got a free pass because Jagex said was too scared to support game integrity. What ended up happening was that players started to keep pushing the limits of what is allowed and not allowed, thus creating a new normal for what players can get away with.

Wasn't uncommon to talk to anyone in the runescape community at a high level and they would casually mention how they traded lots of gold to other accounts and sold it for real life money, yet got no ban. Jagex even admitted later on they purposely let people get away with it but "won't no longer". 

Your friend might have gotten banned for botting, or simply RWTing. When players get so good at a game, or have done anything, their mind likely starts going towards "how can I profit off my fun for this game". Streaming is a great way to do this, or making content, but instead some players choose to sell kamas. Not all kama sellers are just from bots, but from actual players.

Not saying that your friend did anything by the way. I don't know, only ankama knows. If they are innocent, submit a ticket. If the ticket was poorly handled, then submit another one and wait for another response. Again, they will unban if you truly didn't do anything, or if something was an error. But 99/100 times, people will always say they are innocent and not say they are guilty, as they can use the "you banned an innocent player" as leverage for the community to be outraged and encourage an unban for said player, despite them deserving the ban.

Also, bots will always exist. There is no silver bullet to the solution. There are way less compared to a few months ago now, and ankama have said they are focusing more and more as time goes on, as the player base has been growing.
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lol, wait and deal with support? Your support is a joke, good luck every getting anywhere with ankama support. honestly one of THE worst support teams i have ever had the displeasure of dealing with. 

but, a friend of mine also got banned within the past few days for literally no reason, other than that they offered leeching services, and we ALL know thats the reason because they dont use any 3rd party programs or apps and they are such a genuine and likable human being. everyone loves her, and knows she doesnt break the ToU. but she got banned, and yall sit there and give her BS reasoning and 'confidential reasons' nonsense. 

get over yourselves, and go ahead and send this to the people who apparently matter, since the forums/twitter are essentially useless as apparently the team doesnt see them. making updates, balances, and banning because of leeching is a pathetic practice and yall should be ashamed. if this meaningless, and pointless banning continues you will just lost more and more players because we wont be giving a company that doesnt give a crap about their players our time or money anymore. Unity will be dead in the water, and youll only have yourselves to blame. 
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Hello, 

I understand you are unhappy with your friend's sanction, but I would like to ask you not to jump to conclusions or share misinformation: leeching services are not a sanctionable offence.
The community would have been informed if the rules had been changed. 

I am sorry I cannot bring clarity to the situation, but as mentioned earlier, these are private matters and the forums and Twitter are not the platforms to discuss such topics: community managers are unable to assist on such matters, and the Support team has the final say on the decision. 
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Last ticket I've send took 16 days to get any response... and made a forum post showing a bug in game and it took 2 months to get any response at all.
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Yeah, this happened to a guildie recently  randomly perma banned won't tell her why, and  she has done NOTHING Wrong, she leeches Nidas and is a  huge member of the EN community, and Yet ankama decided to screw her and others over for absolutely no reason. Ankama is probably the worst gaming company out there they treat their customers like garbage and their support is a joke. I recommend, not even coming back there are other games out there that are way better.  And  don't treat their player base like shit. 
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absolutely agree, they don´t offer proof, they don´t offer reasons, they just perma ban the whole comunity, in the end dofus is going to be bot´s only if Ankama continues to ban away everyone basicly.... no one is safe this days!

i would understand one week ban and a warning, some people might use programs without understanding that those are vorbidden, we don´t have any list to know what is ok and what not, but perma ban is not ok

i am done here, i am sad that i have to leave my friends and a game that i loved for 15 years, but i don´t want to live in fear every day that i might be banned tommorow for just beeing online and chatting with friends... 
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also happened to me, just like you, I created a char from scratch, transferred all high level items from my other acc to the new one. And all of sudden I got banned, without any warning or reason, I sent a ticket and it took 2 days to get my problem solved (unbanned) ...I also asked why I got banned and guess what? No answers till now (it happened 2 months ago and the ticket is still on) xd
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Frustrating, yet not surprising that matters are handled this way. It's been like this since way before these new mods appeared, since the early 2000s.
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ummm ... 
Let me tell you a lil story:


Once upon a time, in an online mmorpg, once very popular, now played mostly by irrecuperable nostalgics, people made friends, trying to surround selves with friendly helpful folks, both for socializing purposes, but also for ig help purpose.
One former tailed creature with a lil blue basque (she got a class change, after said class was "remade"/ "remastered"/ "revamped", aka, changed into something that looks like another class, compared to 5-10 years ago) did exactly the same, looking for calm nice kind cheerful helpful people to surround herself in the magic world of twelve.
Yet her most dear friends have begun to disappear one by one, being accused by the npc's of said game of simply wishing happy holidays and explaining why those were important holidays to them; for booting when they had multiple chars and did stuff aka fights with some while having one camped to mine or farm something; even herself was punished for using 2 accs to participate to a contest that didn't stipulate if participating with more accs was allowed or nu; and so on. All this, when many "characters" keep commenting crap/ sexist/ antireligious of some kind/ insults or advertise buy/sell % off on alllll channels or multilog in pvp activities where they shouldn't, etc, of that once great game with no "retribution" for that, nutihn' at all..

I just wonder... 
...Till which point, nostalgia will still be greater and weight more than the disgust of seeing good folks accused and expelled from the world of 12 for no reason?
What does one, when left almost alone ig? It is hard to make new friends, a new friendship just aint the same as one that has been going on for years and years of having e.a. 's back ig...
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.So, I'm gonna end this post with this:
  • - WHAT THE MARSHMALLOW IS GOING ON?
  • - HOW THE CANDYCOTTON: BOTS, % OFF SELLERS-BUYERS, PVP MULTILOGGERS, RACIST AND ISLUTING SPAMMERS GET AWAY WITH IT WITH EASE OR FULLY?
  • - ALL THIS, WHILE MORE AND MORE RESPECTABLE MAMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY, PEOPLE WHO HAVE HELPED OTHERS ALOT, POEPLE WHO HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF THEIR OWN FREE AND GAMING TIME INTO BUILDING A NICER ENVIRONMENT FOR OTHERS, GET BANNED WITH SO MUCH EASE?
  • - JUST PLEASE, CHEW A SUGAR COATED APPLE AND GET SERIOUS!
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Preach, girl. You know this is all true.
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Lol, there's a lot of players or friends of players that seem to have got a ban for no reason in here.

I'm not accusing anyone but there's a saying. There's no smoke without fire.

As for support, in a lot of years I have never had an issue with them, regardless of what my issue was. But I have always been polite and enquiring rather than demanding answers and being abrupt and impolite.

Even when I stupidly lost everything to a scam..(and I mean everything apart from my character).

 
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You haven't been around for more then 1 year then. 
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Dragosani#5287|2023-02-22 10:58:20
Lol, there's a lot of players or friends of players that seem to have got a ban for no reason in here.

I'm not accusing anyone but there's a saying. There's no smoke without fire.

As for support, in a lot of years I have never had an issue with them, regardless of what my issue was. But I have always been polite and enquiring rather than demanding answers and being abrupt and impolite.

Even when I lost everything to a scam..

  



 
LOL ! Indeed, there is no smoke without fire.
ROFL Me, and most of my friends, if not all, never lost anything "to a scam"; not to mention "everything".
PMSL !
What most of what ya guys call "a scam" is avidly clicking on a link "to get and sell your temporis pack", to go on a kama buy/sell site, to type own login details into a fake site; well, that, or can get also scammed while trying to do any of these to others; oh, I almost forgot, that is also when you "lend" own acc/s to "friends" and they clean the items from it.
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  • FYI: I've been polite ALWAYS with support; yet at least one of my "issues" has been dragging for years, being sent back and fwd from one team to another, from one dept. to another, e.a. declining responsibility or power to do anything.
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I stupidly fell for a scam after not playing for a couple of years, the one where the player wants you to go vote for them and you have to log in to do so, yes that one.

As for the other veiled accusations, not worth replying to. 
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It's honestly sickening that this happened. I support the truth coming out that firecaster probably is innocent. Now I'm worried about my account, what if I trigger an arbitrary ban somehow? 
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Unfortunately we have to worry about that. I started playing back with a friend (sub for a year just to start), but I don't wanna stress myself over unexplained bans. I might just quit wiht him, before they also ban me for no reason.
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I know some people who got perma banned while leveling mounts for breeding, suposedly for botting, but then got the decision reversed a long time after (only after writing to french support of course). All mount certificates invalidated by then, and no sign of getting them back from support.
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be carefull not to play too fast, don´t klick too fast, don´t exchange stuff, in all this cases you might be a bot pensive
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Hi, Spanish wiki admin here:

My eni has been banned when I was breeding in paddocks by a French mod in Tal Kasha server —in their list of mods, there are not for Tal Kasaha server—. No warning, no a ban for 2 hours or 1 day, but a permanent one. The reason? I do not know. "You are a bot, or you are using third party programs for playing the game". I have more accounts, at that moment this account was also logged in, in the same map, but only my eni was banned, like if they were chasing the most valuable char I have. If they are 100 % secure I am a bot, they should have banned my IP, but no.

Support is being condescending, and they only answer with copy and paste responses. "Who are the bots here?", I wonder. I have reported a lot of bots all these years, a lot of them keep in the game after a mod response, but they are not getting banned. It feels like tables are turned, and now we are the bots. Real people can be fast, and bots can delay their actions. Maybe the hours that we are online are influencing? Probably, but nothing makes sense.

We do not deserve this, people have feelings and some of us, sadly, have a poor mental health. Living in fear for playing a game we enjoy, it is miserable. Hope they realize what they are doing, and they treat us with the respect we deserve. A company needs their consumers for keeping alive.


Regards.
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Preach, girl.
If only you could hear me clapping right now.
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My Cra's account (Which had tons of achievements, good items, Kamas etc..) was perma-banned without warning or reason back in early 2020. When I queried exactly as to why that account was banned, somebody from the Ankama Team threatened to ban ALL accounts that had entered the game using my home IP address. Obviously, to avoid any more trouble, I closed the ticket; but this is yet another example of the 'support' team not doing their job to a high standard. I understand that they're probably bogged down with thousands of tickets, but this is ridiculous. The only reason I can think that they'd do something like this is if they thought I was a botter or mistook me for someone else..?
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