[FINALLY UPDATED] WEAPON TABLES

Wow! Nicely done Leyline/Arweena would definitely be proud to see something like this . Thanks for the useful info.

- Bochi

Outstanding.

This needs a sticky.

Very nice to have, thanks. Should help a lot when picking weapons.
I don't mean to nit pick, but Mush Mishish has a cha steal, not air.

SiberianCreeper|2012-11-21 18:10:10

Very nice to have, thanks. Should help a lot when picking weapons.
I don't mean to nit pick, but Mush Mishish has a cha steal, not air.

Oops! I'm using the staff myself. Corrected, thanks a lot

Also I'm sorry about the size of the screenshots.

Awesome table. Not sure if it would confuse things more than it would help, but I'd also recommend adding a column (or columns) for average damage per AP, since that's one of my favorite stats to look at when considering weapons.

AFDowntown|2012-11-30 18:58:05

Awesome table. Not sure if it would confuse things more than it would help, but I'd also recommend adding a column (or columns) for average damage per AP, since that's one of my favorite stats to look at when considering weapons.

I thought about it but it may be misleading since you can't use all your ap with any weapon.

ha wont need this anymore i rather us my punch

So much wasted time.

sorry to say xeanord... it seems you wasted a lot of time doing this now.

I really liked the time and effort you put in to do this.

edit. sorry i posted this before reading yours yesterday

I'll try to update this after the changes.

XehanordHeartless|2013-03-17 11:39:22

I'll try to update this after the changes.

There will still be room for strategic calculations with regard to weapons. For example it seems obvious that a 4 ap hammer won't be able to do as much damage as a 3 ap dagger that you can use twice for 6 ap total. This will actually allow you to calculate damage per AP as well as the max number of times you can use a weapon to figure out what the most effective fire weapon is for example:

Is it stormcloud staff for 5 AP? Or Mallow Marsh daggers for 3 AP? Etc...

Sadly the fact that all classes can use any weapon with no penalty and the fact that you can only use your weapon a set number of teams means that no more than ever these is going to be only one weapon of each element that is ideal. Before it made sense to say that one weapon was worth using because of your class, or maybe you had a 10 ap build so a 5 ap weapon worked, or you had a 12 ap build so a four ap weapon was best.

But now it doesn't matter what build or class you are. Sadly there is only going to be one weapon for each element which is best, and it will be easy to figure out what that weapon is.

Well nice work , seems time consuming but im sorry to say its not usefull any more after weapons update sadly  

AboodHamed|2013-05-06 07:10:43

Well nice work , seems time consuming but im sorry to say its not usefull any more after weapons update sadly

This is getting a major overhaul in summer.

I hope they bring back the old weapon system!

UPDATE: I've started making the new tables. This will go slowly because the items are not in wiki and I have to search the official weapon list.

IAMONEOFAKIND|2012-11-21 04:21:28

Wow! Nicely done Leyline/Arweena would definitely be proud to see something like this . Thanks for the useful info.

- Bochi

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Mishna|2013-03-23 21:17:36

XehanordHeartless|2013-03-17 11:39:22

I'll try to update this after the changes.

There will still be room for strategic calculations with regard to weapons. For example it seems obvious that a 4 ap hammer won't be able to do as much damage as a 3 ap dagger that you can use twice for 6 ap total. This will actually allow you to calculate damage per AP as well as the max number of times you can use a weapon to figure out what the most effective fire weapon is for example:

Is it stormcloud staff for 5 AP? Or Mallow Marsh daggers for 3 AP? Etc...

Sadly the fact that all classes can use any weapon with no penalty and the fact that you can only use your weapon a set number of teams means that no more than ever these is going to be only one weapon of each element that is ideal. Before it made sense to say that one weapon was worth using because of your class, or maybe you had a 10 ap build so a 5 ap weapon worked, or you had a 12 ap build so a four ap weapon was best.

But now it doesn't matter what build or class you are. Sadly there is only going to be one weapon for each element which is best, and it will be easy to figure out what that weapon is.

I can't disagree more. If you have high stats and low damages, you may prefer a single one hit weapon like slashen axe rather than a elfic shovel (which is worth using only if you have high fixed damage and ch)

Bump
I managed to automatize the process of creating the tables using a few Python scripts.
The good thing is that updates won't be a problem any more and in request I can easily provide more fields like damage/ap. As you may have noticed, I also list weapons below lvl 100 since I don't have to do the process by hand anymore.
The bad thing is that the scripts fetch the data from the official encyclopedia and therefore a few items are not included since their stats are not listed in the official site.
You can find the updated version in my talk page, I will also upload screenshots when I find the time but for the time being, a complete updated version of the tables in my talk page is better than outdated tables and screenshots. If someone could help me with the screenshots, it would be much appreciated!