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Bandits de Cania sur Ilyzaelle (et oui, encore, me direz-vous)

Par SoAsleep - ABONNÉ - 19 Avril 2020 - 16:59:20

Bonjour chers collègues du monocompte ! happy

Je me permet de faire un post aujourd'hui (qui a certes déjà été fait) quant au temps de réapparition des bandits de Cania sur Ilyzaelle, cette fameuse et frustrante quête appartenant à la série pour acquérir ce bon vieux dofus émeraude.

Ce temps de réapparition a été déjà récemment réduit (ils mettent dorénavant maximum 9H à réapparaître), dans la même zone qu'auparavant.
Malgré tout, après avoir discuté avec beaucoup de joueurs, tout le monde est unanime pour dire que même avec cette réduction, en cette période de confinement (ou l'activité des joueurs est la plus conséquente), le temps de respawn est très frustrant. Certes nous pouvons passer, pour certains, plus de temps sur le jeu, mais il y a bien plus de joueurs, et donc bien plus de personnes qui cherchent les bandits.

Entre les groupes qui lancent le combat à 6, les respawn parfois à l'opposé de la position de chaque joueur d'un groupe, rentrer dans ce combat est plus difficile que jamais, du moins de mon point de vue.

Idée de solution : 

Je ne voudrais pas proposer de totalement enlever ce temps de respawn (au risque de gravement réduire le prix des écailles et du Dofus), mais serait-il envisageable, à votre avis, de faire réapparaître les bandits, dans les mêmes zones, mais cette fois-ci toute les 3H ? ph34r
Cette mesure pourrait n'être que temporaire, pendant cette période où l'activité du jeu est la plus développée, pour ensuite éventuellement revenir à la normal.
Cela permettrait à beaucoup plus de joueurs de progresser dans leur quête. Ils ont auront encore le mérite d'avoir attendu 3 heures (ce qui n'est tout de même pas rien) et ne seront pas obligé de patienter le triple pour au final ne simplement pas accéder au combat. Attendre 3h est déjà moins ennuyeux qu'attendre trois fois plus. De plus, avec le fonctionnement des groupes qui se répartissent sur chaque zone, avec les chefs de groupes qui vérifient la présence de chacun toutes les X minutes, cela nous bloque complètement dans notre jeu puisqu'on ne peut simplement rien faire à coté (perdre réellement son temps est quand même vachement embêtant je trouve, surtout pour un jeu comme Dofus où il y un vaste panel de trucs à faire, mais pour lesquels ils ne faut pas rester planter 15H sur la même map).

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Je pense ici parler au nom de beaucoup de joueurs qui comme moi, tentent chaque jour tant bien que mal de rester sur une zone à longueur de journée sans pour autant parvenir à lancer ces fameux combats. Et je pense que ceci est d'autant plus frustrant pour les personnes devant travailler (même de chez eux), de ne simplement pas pouvoir accomplir cette quête qui est pourtant une des des plus importantes du jeu, puisqu'il s'agit d'une quête principale.
Je me met à la place des anciens joueurs montant un nouveau personnage, qui au bout d'un mois voir plus n'ont toujours pas pu obtenir la moindre écaille, mais également à la place des nouveaux joueurs qui découvrent le lore du jeu et aimeraient bien avancer dans leur quête des six Dofus primordiaux ! Ca doit tout de même être lassant à force de ne pas pouvoir accomplir un objectif, simplement car on ne peut pas passer 15h par jour sur la même map, à attendre un respawn sans être même sûr de l'avoir.

En espérant que vous pourrez tous prendre le temps de méditer là dessus, ce serait bien d'avoir l'avis d'autres joueurs après tout, c'est toujours ou presque constructif. cool

Bonne journée à tous quand même,

SoAsleep.

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Hello ! 

Parfaitement d'accord, et l'idée d'une nouvelle réduction du temps de repop (le passer à 6h max ou 3h max dans l'idéal) de manière éphémère compte tenu du confinement me semblerait être une réponse tout à fait appropriée. Quand on voit à chaque repop qu'il y a 35/40 personnes sur la map où le bandit a été attaqué qui prient pour que ceux qui ont eu le combat foirent, avec des joueurs différents à chaque créneaux horaires, ça donne une idée du monde qui attend de pouvoir avancer et on comprend bien que c'est pas avec 3 repop par jour que tout le monde va pouvoir se débloquer...

D'autant plus que l'intérêt pour les Dofus est plus grand maintenant que leurs caractéristiques ont été joliment revues. Et ça casse un peu le derrière de lâcher 4M (l'équivalent d'un full parcho dans 2 éléments) de kamas pour l'obtenir quand il y a une quête intéressante et déjà assez longue comme ça pour l'obtenir... 

Enfin, fatigue frustration et lassitude vous attendent durant cette quête si vous décidez de vous y lancer maintenant. C'est dommage de donner l'avantage aux plus extrêmes prêts à se ruiner la santé en tapant des nuits blanches pour des écailles en pixel...

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Je suis d'accord , j'ai passer 2 jours dessus !

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*réponse à quelqu'un qui a visiblement pas assumé son post et qui traite les gens de flemmards*

C'est vrai que quelqu'un qui va rester 6 heures d'affilées le cul sur sa chaise au milieu de la nuit à rien faire c'est un gros bosseur ça 

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Cette quête est une perte de temps monumentale.

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Bonjour
Je suis sur JAHASH et  cette quête,  me gâche littéralement  mon expérience en jeu . 3 jours  (+55h de jeu, oui je ne dors pas beaucoup) que je reste planté la dans la zone défini par notre groupe de 8 joueurs. A la chasse du bandit visé...sans AUCUN résultat !  Un véritable cauchemar !
Je vous transmet ici mon expérience douloureuse. 
Resté à rien faire, à attendre le 'GO' de la personne qui reste dans la tente. Pas pouvoir manger, pas se lever par peur de louper le groupe et d'avoir attendu pour rien. C'est une véritable organisation militaire qui est mis en place ... 
Une fois le  go donné, on vérifie si le bandit est apparu dans notre zone ( divisé à l'avance) 
On se dirige vers la position donnée par la personne qui l'a trouvé pour lancer/rejoindre . ( chose très difficile à faire vu la grandeur des maps).

Et la c'est l'enfer !  (exemples d'expériences
- Un hl (190+) nous tue et invite  ses copains à venir prendre le groupe à notre place lors du repop.
- Nous ne somme pas assez nombreux pour faire le combat et c'est la mort assuré
-Le groupe est pris en moins de 15s car  on est 80 sur la map pour 8 place.
-Entrée en combat mais se faire kick avant le lancement pour faire entrer les copains ou juste par plaisir.
-Voir certaines personnes lancer les groupes à 3 ou 4 alors qu'on est 60/80 à vouloir entrer.

Avec presque 60h de jeu ne n'ai toujours pas réussit à entré en combat contre un bandit .. 
Je ne peux donc pas continuer la suite de quête pourtant de mon niveau.

J'aime faire les choses dans l'ordre et je n'aime pas beaucoup l'abandon...

Pourquoi faire une quête avec des conditions impossible à gérer
Je dis bien impossible car remplir les conditions de cette quête relève de la chance et non pas d'une stratégie. 

Dans cette situation comment continuer mon aventure dofussienne sans cette étape clé du dofus émeraude que j'imaginai passionnante mais surtout  récompensant mon évolution  en lvl et en expérience dans le monde des douze.

Plusieurs solution sont déjà  imaginé par les joueurs souhaitant que cette quête  "surnommé quête cancer" change. Les joueurs attendent un retour rapide de votre part , vos oreilles doivent déjà siffler.

cordialement
Un joueur dépité









 

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Tu as bien résumé la situation, j'imagine que sur Jahash c'est exactement pareil que sur Ily, soit ingérable...

J'ai fais exactement comme toi, je suis passé à la suite alors que cette quête est sensée être l'une des premières à franchir dans notre aventure, c'est dommage de passer à coté... (mais encore une fois je ne me vois pas ne pas dormir pendant 2 semaines pour un bout d'écaille)

Bon courage tout de même mec

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Worst quest design ever?

So, another day has passed where I stood in front of my screen for 10 hours straight to maybe find one of the two remaining bandits I need. Here I am going to be discussing how this quest is the worst possible design and point out every single problem I found during all these days of hunting. Hopefuly Anakama will listen to reason for once and so something about this as soon as possible.



FIRST PROBLEM: what was intended X what was created.

When the team of people designed the Cania Bandits quest they probably wanted to create two challenges: One beeing having to find the bandits in a large area, which is no problem at all. Second would be the fight itself, since the bandits are not weak by any means, and since the dofus is lv100 you would expect people around that level to be joining the fight wich makes it even harder. But that's not what happens these days ...

In overpopulated servers such as Illyzaele finding the bandits has never been the problem. We have 10x8 groups of players spread out trhu the spawn zone of each one of them, just waiting for them to spawn. The searching problem is solved in 60 seconds. Seems good right?

The fight has been solved as well. In every fight there are at least one or two leechers that can easily kill the bandit and drop the scales for everyone in the fight. Awesome.

But what does this mean? In other words, the fight itself is not a challenge at all anymore, but the search for the bandits (which is solved in 60 seconds after they spawn) created a challenge far worst then anything that was expected.

The challenges Anakama probably wanted to make were easily solved, but they created something else. Unless the next "challenges" (more like giant ass problems) I'm about to mention were in the designers heads then it's safe to say they messed up REALLY bad ...



SECOND PROBLEM: the repop time in overpopulated servers

The current repop time of each bandit is 3 to 9 hours, that gives a 6 hour window for them to spawn. In a normal server where you might have a couple hundred people in the hole server that are in that quest it is not really a big deal. You can easily kill all 3 in a matter of 2 days on your own. But when we talk about Illyzaele, which has a 2,000 player queu just to LOG IN every day in peek hours things work differently.

Considering the server has around 92,000 players you would expect a couple of thousand have already reached this quest, considering it is one of the most famous quests in the game, plus the Emerald is the first elemental dofus average players go for. All things considered we are talking about a very big player base doing the Emerald quest. When I did the Emerald, I got to the Cania Bandits quest in less then 24 hours. Pretty easy. Now, I know since Emerald is one of the main dofus its quests are suppose to be hard. But with a 3 to 9 hour repop and with THOUSANDS of people stuck in the same quest it becomes insane. Let me explain, since the designers DEFINATELY NEVER did this quest on their own, otherwise it would have been fixed by now.

Since there are thousands of players stuck it is natural some are actively trying to do it while others already gave up. I can not tell for sure how many people are trying and how many gave up, what I can say for sure though is that there are AT LEAST 200 different players looking for them EVERY SINGLE DAY. Now, these players organize themselves in searching groups of 8 people. One stays in the tent checking if the mob has poped, the other 7 stay on stand by, ready to look for him as soon as he pops. It would be ok if there was only 1 or 2 groups of people per day. But in server like Illy we are talking about 20+ groups that come and go looking for them for 24h. And since no one knows when they are going to spawn that creates other huge problems which I'm going to talk about.

As you can see, every day we have hundreds of players wasting 4 to 10 hours just waiting for the badits to spawn. It is a HUGE waste of time. If you combine all the hours players have activly spent on this quest im pretty sure everyone would be shocked. And the only reason for that is that the repop time is not nearly as fast as it should be considering the amount of people who needs to kill them. It is possible to check this if you see the amount of players left out of the fight that are just staning on the map ... it looks like the rune market in a x2 xp day.



THIRD PROBLEM: waiting for repop is a nightmare that has nothing to do with RPG

Since no one knows exactly when they are going to spawn and since there are always another 50 players on stand by waiting for the moment when everyone goes running you can pretty much never leave your post if you want to have a shot. That means all these people, all the people in those groups (most of them at least) have to stand on a map DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, waiting fot the mob to spawn. So here you can see what a HUGE WASTE OF TIME this is. And we are not talking about waiting thirty minutes or one hour. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 4 HOURS AVERAGE PER BANDIT, and considering there are 3 bandits, this takes us to 12 hours (of doing nothing) at the BEST CASE SCENARIO PER PLAYER, but probably less then 1% of players get all 3 bandits in 3 trys, average players will take 6, 7, 8, 12, 20 times to find all three, but why is that? Another problem to talk about.

So tell me Anakma, how is this supost to make us want to play the game? How is this suppose to be exiting? THERE IS NO WAY I GET EXITED ABOUT PLAYING WHEN I KNOW IM GOING TO HAVE TO WASTE 6 HOURS OF MY DAY DOING THE SAME THING AS YESTERDAY WHICH IS THE SAME THING I DID THE DAY BEFORE THAT AND THE DAY BEFORE THE DAY BEFORE. I think you get what I'm trying to say here.

Now, some might say you can do something while you wait, you can be productive, read a book, watch a movie, but the truth is: IF I WANTED TO WATCH A MOVIE OR READ A BOOK I WOULDNT BE PLAYING DOFUS, ID BE DOING THOSE THINGS, WHY DO YOU THINK IM HERE? I want to play but the game wont let me.



FOURTH PROBLEM: acctually getting in the fight

Now, let's say your group is the lucky one (out of the other 4, wich I'd say is the average number of groups looking for them between every repop) to find the so wanted bandit and you think now you can rest in peace . THINK AGAIN MATE. Once the bandit is found by a group member, it's not like he can just wait for all the group to arrive on the map, get all organized to the fight and do things all pretty. Whoever finds the bandit has to grab it as soon as another player comes to the map, because it will 100% of the time be a player from another group that is also looking for the bandit.

That means all the other 7 members now have to go blasting from their position to the map the mob was found. And here Anakama is going to punish you even more for attemping to do this crazy quest.

There are 4 factors that will stop many players from reaching the fight before it starts.

First: you are simply too far away from the fight and no matter what you do you wont be able to reach it. And yes, that happens. Sometimes the nearest zaap or means of transport will be so far you wont be able to reach the fight in time no matter what.

Second: you are not far, but your pc sucks. If your pc sucks and it takes more then 1 second to load each map you are fucked. Many times you will do everything right but wont be able to get there because the maps simply did not load fast enought for you to run thru them, even with all graphics at the lowest. Ankama then condemns those with a bad computer.

Third: an unfortunate accident. Your group has finally found the bandit and you are ready to go to it, but when you are about to choose the zaap you missclick and end up somewhere else, or you take the second fastest rout, or you go trhu a path that is blocked and have to go back one or two maps to get on track again. Whatever it is, your mistake costed you 5 precious seconds which will result in all your effort and time wasted going to shit.

Fourth: a combination of the previous 3. The fact you have a bad computer is not going to be solved on your next attempt, getting a very bad zone to guard combined with the fact the bandit spawned too far from the fastest means of transport is just bad luck, not even a bot would make it. In other words, you are fucked.



FITH PROBLEM: Emerald market price X its benefits

Emerald dofus is the first primordial dofus, its quests introduce you to many game mechanics, such as breeding mounts, learning new spells, capturing souls, finding wanteds, amongst many others. The quests are simple but may take some time and might be challenging for unexperienced players, but they correspond to the bonus the dofus gives. Then why the hell the price of Emerald is higher then Torquoise and Crimson? Since those are higher level dofus, provide better bonus, and they're quests are ment to be harder, why the hell are they cheaper? Simple answer, because of the Cania Bandits quest.

The price of the Emerald on highly populated servers is higher not because of the bonus it gives or the rest of the quests, it is because of this single quest. There are three ways of doing the quest: you can buy 5 of each fragment and create all the 3 scales, you can kill the bandits or you can drop the fragments. A combination of these three options is also viable. Theoretically the cheapest way is killing the bandits because the price of each fragment goes from 400,000 to 700,000 (in overpopulated servers) and since you need five of each we are talking about 8,000,000 spent on all of them. Most people don't have that kind of money laying around, and with that amount you can acctually buy two Emeralds, so you dont even need the quest. You can also try to drop the fragments with treasure hunts, it will take you dozens of hunts per fragment and to be honest no one finds 800 treasure hunts to be an interesting thing to do. Now for those who choose to acctually kill the bandits like the game designers probably wants us to do, then you will have to face the other thousands of players who also chose to go that path. But by now you can probably see how demanding that path might be.

About the fragment drops, it is not really a viable option because you can't tell how many hunts you will have to make to get them all. Differently from the Crimson where you can see the current number of roses going up every hunt and synthesize your progression, the Emerald, in the other hand, does not allow you to know how far or how close you are of achieving your goal, since fragment drops are ramdom. So you can expect to be 10 hunts away while you are acctually missing 100 or even 200, and the unknown can be extremely frustating to players, especially on a quest that is so time consuming.

Simply put, what Anakama is saying is this: "Only do this quest for the sake of the 50 achievement points, because if you are here for the dofus the best way to get it is to grind the money to buy it. Doing the quest for the dofus is simply not worth it ".

So they create an endgame quest for a mediocre dofus and expect to recieve positive feedback. The only reason why the Emerald is so expansive is because this quest does not make ANY SENSE AT ALL. Crimson requires 20,000 roses of the sand, but that is ok, it is a healthy challenge! I can search for the roses on my own in a couple of days and do other things while that, and the fact I am colecting them doesnt mean other poeple cant do it too. But when you tell thousands of people to look for the same mob 3 different times and they can only be killed by 8 people at a time with repop of 3 to 9 hours ... YOU CREATE AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE. Its no wonder why such a mediocre dofus costs so much. Even though the demand for the dofus is not big, the quest is so insane the price wont ever go down! THIS MUST BE FIXED NOW.



SIXTH PROBLEM: how are casual, unexperienced and busy players suppose to do such a quest?

What kind of casual player is going to want to sit their ass and do nothing but wait during dozens and dozens of hours to have CHANCE of getting ONE out of THREE scales that they need? Not only that, but the searching groups also impose their own challenges.

Since searching groups have a complex dinamyc and are mostly composed of french speakers, how is a casual non frech speaker suppose to find one of the bandits? The french comunity is the biggest on all overpopulated servers and so far I have not been to one single group where the main language wasnt french. Simply put, Anakama fucks with everyone that doesnt want to learn french and want to do this quest.

Also, in order to be accepted in the group you have to understand how the searching works using this site  https://wondearthful.forumgaming.fr/p1027208-les-bandits-de-cania  and sitting your ass down for 6 hours without ever leaving the screen for more then 10 minutes. Why 10 minutes? Because in order for your group to be effective and have a chance you must respond to the zone checks every 5 to 10 minutes to see if you and everyone else is on they're corresponding zone, otherwise you will be kicked out of the group.

Now I ask you, what kind of player do you think is able to fullfill all those requirements? Only people who have six hours to spare every single day and are willing to spend them in such a dumb way. But average dofus players have their own lifes already, they have responsabilities, work, collage, ALMOST NO ONE HAS THAT KIND OF SPARE TIME TO PUT INTO ONE SINGLE QUEST.

Anakma is depriving all kinds of players from doing a simple quest to get a simple dofus. They turned what was suppose to be a nice and friendly learning experience into an endless nightmare.



SEVENTH PROBLEM: the quest is so boring and hard people simply give up

This question is to everyone doing the quest today: How do you feel when you wake up knowing that you will have to wait another 6 hours doing nothing for this quest?

I can guess your feeling: angry, disappointed, impotent, useless, anxious, and the list goes on. But the worst feeling the gamers will have and that haunt gamer companys the most? Not wanting to play. No one wants to log in to play dofus for this and I'm sure all the people that do, feel absolutely disgusted about this quest. How could they not? It is the most unproductive, dumbest ass shitty quest I have ever seen in a RPG and it seems like Ankama does not give a shit about this and wants to make us suffer for several months until they fix it.

Stop and think about the amount of people that don't have the time or will to understand every aspect about the bandits and simply gave up. Thousands of people on every overpopulated server for sure. How come Anakama doesnt do anyhting about this? They acctually don't give a fuck about this? This is not a problem to be fixed tomorrow or next week, this must be fixed NOW!



EIGTH PROBLEM: it is such a stressfull quest that it is acctually worst for your health then it already looks

You would think: spending 6 hours with you ass on a screen doing nothing for several days is already bad for your health right? Well I'm here to tell you it gets worst.

When you wait you don't wait six hours for nothing. You wait for something. And in this case all your waiting comes down to one single moment: the moment when the tent guy says "GO" and dozens of players go blasting thru every possible map the bandit could have spawned. And for 60 seconds you look in your zone and you wait. You wait for someone to link the position of the fight. And when you get there you find out that the fight has already started, you were too late and the mob is beeing killed by 4 people and their knights. The fight ends and only three of them had the quest. You just lost 6 hours of your day for this moment and that is your reward. Congratulations.

WHAT KIND OF QUEST DESIGN IS THIS? YOU REALIZE THIS IS EXTREMELY UNHEALTHY FOR NEARLY EVERYONE THAT ATTEMPTS IT? NOT TO MENTION HOW DISRESPECTFUL IT IS WITH THE COMMUNITY!

The stress also comes when the people from your own group fight you because you didnt make it to the fight in time: "you were not fast enought, you are a noob" or when they fight over a little mistake someone did like not ringing the bell and calling for help when they got inside the fight so the clock would run slower. All those factors accumulate and in the end of the day, when you spent several hours and got nothing at all, it feels like shit. Feels like giving up and moving forward, unsuccesfull.

How can Anakama allow such a thing to happen? The answer is simple: none of the designers acctually did the quest under the same conditions as the average player does. It is obvious they will treat this problem like it's no big deal at all.



NINTH PROBLEM: I know it's ment to be hard, but this is out of control

The title of this chapter speaks for itself, we all know this quests are not ment to be easy but there is a line here you cannot see. On servers with low population the quest is not hard at all, if you are lucky you can do the whole thing within 24 hours, but on overpopulated servers it becomes so time consuming and difficult that it is not even fun anymore. It is boring and makes people angry. It feels like an insult.

The reason for this is that the quest has one component that is mutually exclusive, that means that if one person is doing it, others can not do it as well, they can only wait for their turn. And that creates a bubble that wont ever pop. It's like a bag full of water filling up but only one drop of water comes out at a time, and the bag is about to explode. What I mean by this is that there are more people getting stuck in the quest every day then finishing it and the people stuck are getting mad. This bag of water is mutualy excludent, if one drop of water comes out it prevents others of using the same escape rout. And this is exactly what is happening here.

This would not happen if the quest was not mutually excludent but was still hard. People would only get stuck if they were lazy or didnt use the right strategy. They could get a little frustated but that would be all. Instead, you choose to deprive hardworking players who spent hundreds of hours trying to do the mission you porposed from succedding. It's not suppose to work and sure as hell it aint working.



CONCLUSION

Now, the list of problems with this quest could go on and on forever, I didn't even talked about the new fragment aquisition process (wich is absolutely ridiculous and tripled the price of each fragment) or of how many things you sacrifice doing in the game and on your life during the time you are waiting for that single moment when everyone goes running, only to know that in the end it was all for nothing. There are definately other problems that I did not saw or experienced but the community definately suffered with. Right now I'm tired of this text I wrote and I am tired of this quest you made. I will still do it the way it is but I'm hoping something is done about this.

My sugestion is decreasing the repop time from 3 to 9 hours to AT LEAST 2 to 6 hours. It will make things a little better but I wouldnt be surprised if negative feedback still kept coming. Also rework the fragment aquisition process, because the way it stands combined with the difficulty of finding the bandits makes the quest unbearable, its like you make buying the fragments hard as an incentive to hunt the bandits, but you managed to make the bandits even harder , so it makes no sense at all. You could even create a repop time for every different server according to their population, wich should be more appropriate and efficient. I am also sure other community members and the team working on this (if there is one) may find different solutions and suggestions for the problem, but honestly, there are already more then enough complains and suggested solutions for something to be done!

To be totaly honest, you can even keep the quest as it is as long as you increase the bonus of the Emerald dofus. This way the high dofus price and high quest difficulty would match and it could acctually become a worthy challange. Unfortunately right now none of those things have been achieved. The Emerald bonus is mediocre and currently I would risk sayin that this single quest takes more active time to complete then almost all other dofus achievments (not a single quest, but the hole achievement itself) in the game.

I don't know if Ankama realized it yet, but people aren't failing beacuse they didn't put in enough effort or used a bad strategy. All the hundreds of players currently locked in this quest already use all the best possible strategys and put in all the effort they can. There is no sense on keeping this going! This is blasphemy! This is madness! "Madness? THIS ... IS ... ESMERALDaAaAaAA!" (Leonidas when contested while programing the quest code).

I know some lucky players that have not been thru this will dislike the things I said, but then I suppose it is very likely they did not read the hole thing or did not go thru the hole quest, experiencing some of the difficulties I mentioned here . The lucky ones that did it in two days and 4 attempts will be the first to criticize, that's for sure. But those who are average players and putted their time into it will sympathize with at least one or two of the things I said.

Also keep in mind that making the quest less hard does not mean it will be easy by any means, and I honestly think it should not be easy, but as it stands we most definately need an emergency rework.

I'd also like to say that I am sorry if I offended anyone from the staff with this complain, but the quest made me so mad that I just had to let something out of my system.

Hopefully this text reaches someone important and something is done about this. I know this trhead has been around for a while and nothing considerable has really been done about it, but that only goes to show that we cant stop to report on this issue, it is killing a part of the game.

I wouldnt be surprised if this text had no effect at all, but that would only prove my point: Ankama does not care about this quest and the thousands of people involved, and does not have their priorities straight. I know there are other updates to be made, new things to ad to make the game more attractive for new players, but fixing this problem is about making old players happy and making it possible for the new players to become old players one day. And remember, this is a problem to be solved TODAY, not tomorrow, not next month. Reducing repop time is and easy fix and I see no reason why it shouldnt be done. I hope Ankama realizes that.

My name is Yogananda and I am currently looking for the bandits on Illyzaele. Every day I log in and wait 10 hours hoping for a miracle. If you want, send me a private message and maybe togheter we can see a happy ending for once.
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I'd even say "f*** repop times". Let the bandits spawn randomly in their respective areas each time a player gets to this point in the quest. So each player will have HIS instances of the bandits that he will need to find and fight.

If it's too simple, you could have your bandits change position every 10 minutes (for instance) ; after all they are supposed to be elusive. And once someone has spotted one of his bandits, others could join him in the fight and get the precious scale but they would have to be quick since in a few moments the bandit will have disappeared to an other place. That way you would keep the scouting mechanic, the fight, the "you need to be quick about it" while being able to actively DO something to progress in your quest because you would be SURE that the bandits are here somewhere.

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